Upload or insert images from URL. <_<. X-21 is a flating agent—don't use it straight. I have cats and I clean the litter box (thanks the wife for that! ) See "The Complete Future" thread in the Painting and Airbrushing Forum. C $3.27. It tries to stink me out and I battle back with dull coat, model master white or metalizers. However, they did and although I have never heard an official line from Humbrol, I assume that the withdrawal of this product by the company itself flags up the dangers of using any of these cans still in circulation. Of course, thats all a matter of personal taste! It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. I swore those off many years ago. Tamiya makes a flat clear. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 02:50 AM UTC, Thanks for all the responses thus far. Stickers were subsequently applied on said cans stating ` don`t use with brushing paint for 7 days`. Several applications should make the Flat Base clear again so you can apply a proper flat clear. Tamiya's Clear Flat in a jar is also very good. I also have a few rattle cans of MM laquer. Top Rated Seller Top Rated Seller. in which i explore the many legends of this apparently magical way of making yo model shine like a diamond in a goat's ass. the krylon is cheaper, but a larger can. Then flat coat with another type of coat. I don't know if it is as "flat" as Testors, but at least it will be compatible with your color coats. Too little Flat Base have no effect on the paint. I had a small plastic tub (with a lid) of a desert yellow which kept liquid for 2 weeks after I added two drops of extender to the mix. From: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io [mailto:main@RealSTMFC.groups.io] On Behalf Of Eric Hansmann Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:43 AM To: main@RealSTMFC.groups.io Subject: Re: [RealSTMFC] Tamiya Flat Clear TS-80 spray can I’ve had sputtering rattle cans of Dullcoat ruin freight car finishes. You can spray lacquer over the paint and decals if you do it right. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 01:39 AM UTC. Tamiya acrylic paint, XF-86 Flat clear. Posted: Friday, November 30, 2012 - 10:45 AM UTC. Tamiya paint will often do this regardless of colours, it's not great to brush as the thinner will re-activate prior coats even when dry. (all these acryllic users were making me feel like the last smoker in the bar), ? I did have some Floquil Reefer White yellow after I hit it with Testor Dullcote (in the rattle can) but that was probably more because I didn't let the paint dry long enough. My best success (if you want to call it that) seems to have been with my thinned mixture of Vallejo Model Color Matte Varnish with a couple drops of Liquitex Flo-Aid added. I've never used this product before, but my understanding is that it is specifically intended for use as a final coat (and is a different product than Tamiya Flat Base X21.) ive used krylon matte finish clear coat and also mr clear top coat flat. Looking at your pictures Bill I'm getting a bit of this too, only nowhere near as bad. I still want to try pollyscale, every review claims to be the flat coat from the gods... would see. I ordered some tamiya base and i have a bottle of future to thin it out. It is a flattening additive to add to their gloss clear coat. Replied by Phil on topic Tamiya XF-86 flat clear help I've found it ok, not as good as Gunze flat, but I've never had any issue with it drying glossy. Painting polycarbonate bodies is done from the inside of the body shell as opposed to the outside of a traditional plastic model. Too much Flat Base causes the frosty surfaces. Cheers Mike, you`ve inspired me to stick some on :). A heavy coat gives the solvents more time to attack the other paints. My rule of thumb is: You can paint enamels and acrylics over lacquer, but not lacquers over enamels and acrylics. I love Testors Dull Cote. But I don't put down anything before i use dullcote. Brand New. But if you want to create some effect for tyres, this flat base can work.   Pasted as rich text. Testors lacquer flat works like a charm, but the darn thing stinks my place for about a week, I just got some tamiya flat, nice acrylic "brain cell friendly" stuff, but.... would I get the same results as testors? Paste as plain text instead, × Part Number 85080. Acrylic paints dry extremely quickly which can cause the frosting effect. Customs services and international tracking provided. I have Iso alcohol, or water, and I can get the very small bottles of Tamiya thinner. But what about yellowing, I've read on this forum where Testors MM dullcote and glosscote turn yellow over time. Testor Dull Coat is good. It dries instantly and is safe over enamel or acrylic finishes. Here's my honest advice as I've heard of this issue before. The more you add, the flatter it gets. Canada Post is not updating tracking information on a regular basis. From United States +C … the rattle cans is the same stuff as the bottle, juset that you need to thin the stuff in the bottle before you spray it. The main problem is that no matter what formulas, brands, thinning ratios or ritual dances to the modeling gods I use, I always end up with a finish that makes the model look dusty. 18 product ratings - Tamiya 85080 TS-80 Matte Flat Clear Coat Spray Lacquer Paint Aerosol 100ml. I've been having a real problem airbrushing various brands of acrylic clear flat coats. You should be okay if you do it lightly. As far as Tamiya, I dont think they make a flat clear coat. Get ready for some science experiments… Testors Clear Coat After finsihing decaling, I'm preparing to airbrush my model with a matte finish using Tamiya XF-86 Flat Clear. I think the testors dullcote has just a bit more sheen than acryl flat, which i like. Find great deals on eBay for tamiya clear and tamiya clear spray. Our retail location is PICKUP ONLY. If you don't have an airbrush, get some Mr Topcoat or another acrylic clear coat for best results. It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? Sometimes even in the cat litter. CDN$15.99. Don't thin it at all, just drop it in the airbrush and go. Tamiya makes a clear flat paint that you can use instead. About Tamiya Flat Base, yes like everybody said it's just an additive elements to other gloss paints. I can't remember the number, but the Tamiya web site would list it. Beats the crap of out cat........crap. I share my building room with stupid the cat. C $12.05; Buy It Now +C $29.74 shipping Sometimes I got frosty surfaces on the model because of this Dull Coat. You can thin it out about 50/50. I find anything other than a flat clear coat … Some of these I really haven’t heard too much about being used for BJDs. Testors TENAMEL-1247 Aerosol Enamel Paint, 3 oz, Gloss Black 4.5 out of 5 stars 165. Ive tried MM acryl flat but for me I feel that it is a bit too flat of a coat. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 04:34 PM UTC. The one thing you havent mentioned is an 'extender'. You can post now and register later. Always turns out, never failed me yet and been using it for years and years. You are viewing the archived version of the site. Sorry for the noob question,but I am wondering if I can spray Tamiya Lacquer(TS-13 and TS-80)from a rattle can as a gloss and flat coat over my models which are painted in Tamiya Acrylics. A slight sheen isn't too bad, but would prefer not to have any...especially on figures.   Your previous content has been restored. It is called Tamiya Flat Base, right? Rick_Q, Make sure to test clear coating over decals before applying to a finished project. I used one on a `copter and it was fine, next day I used it on a jet and...disaster!   You cannot paste images directly. Each can contains 100ml of paint, which is the appropriate amount for finishing one complete model. This will prevent the clear coat from cracking due to different cure rates from the paint underneath. For my first ever post on Armorama, I'm looking for some troubleshooting assistance. 100ml of paint. there is nothing wrong with lacquer per se. I have been using 2 parts X-21 Flat Base to 3 parts Future as a flat coat for 5 years and it always gives me a perfect dead flat finish with no problems. Greetings all. Stupid poos in the room. Never clogged, and always comes out flat. My short term memory is getting really bad....and so is my short term memory. Recently I went to my local hobby store and picked out some clear matte sealants. If it's some kind of spray can, you might want to wait longer though, as spray cans mist a lot more paint onto the model and usually take longer to fully cure. We are shipping online orders as usual during the COVID-19 event. Posted: Thursday, November 29, 2012 - 02:21 PM UTC. Lusterless Flat Lacquer Clear Coat Testors Customers also viewed these products. I hope that Humbrol have sorted out their problems as I once found their products ultra-reliable untill my desert jets came out looking like they`d been covered in (1)snow or (2) paintstripper. I just ordered a bottle of Tamiya XF86, and will post my findings as soon as I shoot it. it works with the rattle cans too, its just easier to get a light coat with an airbrush. I don't really reccomend this product. Ideal for preparing ABS and Styrene plastic for paint. Free Shipping by Amazon ... Tamiya TS-80 Clear Flat Spray 100ml. Again, thin it out and spray it on lightly and it dries dead flat. Bill,sorry you are having so much trouble.I know it can be frustrating not being ablle to fix a problem.Let me ask you a few questions. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. × Yeah, I was a Humbrol man untill they changed formula and only, initially, advertised it as `new formula`, with no mention of the potential harm it could do if you sprayed it on their own enamel paint. March 21, 2006 in Tools 'n' Tips. I absolutely love David Gilmour's guitar work. some say to use it. Posted: Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 09:57 PM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:09 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 02:21 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 09:56 AM UTC, Posted: Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 11:25 AM UTC. If either Clear or Flat Base … Are you talking about the spray cans on the stuff in the bottles? 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